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See Article IV, section 3. DC was obviously a different animal.

New states may be admitted by the Congress into this union; but no new states shall be formed or erected within the jurisdiction of any other state; nor any state be formed by the junction of two or more states, or parts of states, without the consent of the legislatures of the states concerned as well as of the Congress.

The Congress shall have power to dispose of and make all needful rules and regulations respecting the territory or other property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to prejudice any claims of the United States, or of any particular state.

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Posted: 11/17/2020 at 4:43PM

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The new Idaho -- Oregon Hoo 11/17/2020 1:55PM

Why should people have to be governed by people they don't like? ** -- ryno hoo 11/17/2020 2:36PM

Well, then, that's why you're allowed to move somewhere else -- Oregon Hoo 11/17/2020 2:45PM

Why would you want to fight this if you're in Salem? -- Faz d. Hoo 11/17/2020 3:48PM

By that logic we would have about 3,000 U.S. states by now ** -- Oregon Hoo 11/17/2020 4:02PM

We're still talking about two Oregonian counties that want to join Idaho, -- Faz d. Hoo 11/17/2020 4:09PM

No, but it might add an electoral vote or two in the R column. Not sure. ** -- SixerHoo 11/17/2020 4:20PM

Huh? It is maybe 60,000 people out of 4+ million. ** -- Faz d. Hoo 11/17/2020 4:27PM

Okay. Didn’t know the numbers. ** -- SixerHoo 11/17/2020 4:30PM

If we made accommodations for anytime some fringe voters -- Oregon Hoo 11/17/2020 4:14PM

If that rigid thinking held, I would be living in DC right now, not VA. -- Faz d. Hoo 11/17/2020 4:24PM

I'm sure you know that annexation by a city is quite different than -- Seattle .Hoo 11/17/2020 4:29PM

Uh, VA annexed Arlington and Alexandria. ** -- Faz d. Hoo 11/17/2020 4:31PM

That was called retrocession. VA had ceded that land to the federal govt in -- SixerHoo 11/17/2020 4:38PM

OK I got the verb wrong, but the broader point remains -- Faz d. Hoo 11/17/2020 4:41PM

It has been tried recently with predictable results. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 11/17/2020 4:45PM

Were they a part of DC? Is DC a state? Who decided? Do you think that -- Seattle .Hoo 11/17/2020 4:35PM

ALX/ARL were part of DC, but they petitioned Congress and Congress agreed. -- Faz d. Hoo 11/17/2020 4:40PM

See Article IV, section 3. DC was obviously a different animal. -- Seattle .Hoo 11/17/2020 4:43PM

Uh, that's exactly what I'm saying. -- Faz d. Hoo 11/17/2020 4:51PM

Would all parties consent? The answer is no. -- Seattle .Hoo 11/17/2020 4:56PM

Would you mind sharing your knowledge of why the answer is no? ** -- Faz d. Hoo 11/17/2020 5:35PM

I should modify my answer below. I was looking at the map in the article of -- Seattle .Hoo 11/17/2020 7:25PM

From a practical aspect how are you going to get the Oregon legislature to -- Seattle .Hoo 11/17/2020 7:11PM

Long time ago, very different reasons ** -- Oregon Hoo 11/17/2020 4:33PM

That's not a serious question is it? ** -- Seattle .Hoo 11/17/2020 3:53PM

Well, it's why we gave Trump the boot. So there are ways to address it. For -- Seattle .Hoo 11/17/2020 2:44PM

They could change the name to Udaho. ** -- aint2Hokie4me 11/17/2020 2:26PM

Someone should found a town called Udapimp, ID. ** -- WahooRQ 11/17/2020 4:14PM

That could double as the state greeting too ** -- TomGlansAski 11/17/2020 2:51PM

Hoo you calling a ho? ** -- Hoodafan 11/17/2020 2:51PM

How could it be anything but Trumplandia? ** -- Beerman 11/17/2020 2:37PM

White Supremistan?** -- Oregon Hoo 11/17/2020 2:55PM

I like Whitopia ** -- HoodatB 11/17/2020 3:04PM

That's how Oregon got started interestingly enough. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 11/17/2020 3:05PM

Very true. Lots of racist roots with this state ** -- Oregon Hoo 11/17/2020 4:15PM

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Threadjack -- Stimp 11/17/2020 2:08PM

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Too bad, so much natural beauty out here you're missing ** -- Oregon Hoo 11/17/2020 2:58PM

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Good! ** -- Seattle .Hoo 11/17/2020 2:56PM

That's why I laugh at this -- Oregon Hoo 11/17/2020 2:49PM

Or they just turn blue. See Arizona. :) ** -- Seattle .Hoo 11/17/2020 2:50PM

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All 37 of the people living there. ;) ** -- Seattle .Hoo 11/17/2020 2:56PM

My Private Idaho ** -- Lazarus 11/17/2020 2:01PM